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Are you going to buy Phantasy Star Zero for the DS?

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Post  Flash T.H. on Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:53 pm

(Phantasy Star Zero, if you don't know)
Phantasy Star Zero is deemed to be the true sequel to the Phantasy Star Online series, and as such, I expect that many on this forum (at least the ones who have a DS) are going to buy it. So that's one reason why I made this topic.
Second, who's going to be able to play Online? I know I will! (Yay for Wi-Fi USB Connector that only works on Wii and DS and not for my computer for some stupid reason!)
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Post  Wing on Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:08 pm

I've considered getting it, and it's probable. I really don't know if I'll get it straight away though. Probably later on.
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Post  Flash T.H. on Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:51 pm

Since I have to raise money first, I have to do the same.
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Post  Aleron Ives on Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:24 pm

I'll download the ROM since I don't have a DS.

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Post  EvilMag on Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:30 pm

Until I get my Wi-Fi fix up, I'll get it
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Post  Gilgamesh76 on Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:35 am

Day one.
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Post  EvilMag on Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:18 am

Aleron Ives wrote:I'll download the ROM since I don't have a DS.
you might need to use AR Codes to play it since it has Copy Protection and it will crash after the first cutscene
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Post  Flash T.H. on Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:15 pm

Oh yeah... there's that too, Aleron. You'll have to use Action Replay codes to get rid of Copy Protection. (Oddly it wasn't there in the JPN version)
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Post  Aleron Ives on Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:29 pm

EvilMag wrote:
Aleron Ives wrote:I'll download the ROM since I don't have a DS.
you might need to use AR Codes to play it since it has Copy Protection and it will crash after the first cutscene
That's easy since it's an emulator, though. You can probably just set them to always be used, and you don't have to type them in using a lame onscreen keyboard. Razz

Flash T.H. wrote:(Oddly it wasn't there in the JPN version)
Yes it was.

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Post  Wing on Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:56 pm

Flash T.H. wrote:(Oddly it wasn't there in the JPN version)

Aleron Ives wrote:Yes it was.

One of these two is not like the other one...
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Post  Flash T.H. on Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:05 pm

No, it wasn't. I saw someone playing the JPN version of PSZ in an English DS. >_<

Oh! By the way, if you have a DSi, it's rumored you can download one of the stages from the PSO Episode 1 onto the game. I think it would be the Forest or the Ruins.
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Post  Aleron Ives on Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:45 pm

We're talking about emulation/ROM protection, not region encoding, hurr. You can't play the JP PSZ on an emulator without codes.

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Post  Flash T.H. on Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:07 pm

Eh-heh heh heh heh... Sorry, I got confused. -_-
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Post  furrypaws on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:00 pm

Aleron Ives wrote:We're talking about emulation/ROM protection, not region encoding, hurr. You can't play the JP PSZ on an emulator without codes.

Sure you can, you just need a fixed ROM.

And it's not really a "true" sequel. If you enjoyed PSO, you'll enjoy it (at least briefly), but don't get your hopes up to this being a whole massive PSO revival. It's more of a throwback than a continuation, if that makes any sense.

Fun, but it doesn't last long.

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Post  Flash T.H. on Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:26 pm

I have proof that it's a sequel. AND I read an interview that said it is a sequel/spin-off, in this case, it may look different, but it's still a sequel. The only thing that can prove it to be a TRUE sequel to PSO is confirmation that Ragol is the setting now. (Which is being debated over in the U.S. and no foriegn players care about it, so no one knows if it's a true sequel or not. The sequel thing is kind of a huge debate in the gaming society. I personally think with all the info I have that it actually is a true sequel, but you can never be so sure untill you've seen it for yourself, right? Very Happy
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Post  Aleron Ives on Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:32 pm

PSU is a sequel to PSO just like PSZ, they just took the game in two different directions. PSZ is the weird kiddy skip-hop fighting game, which is really a bit disturbing. Why do Nintendo games always end up looking like they should be named "My Little Pony Edition"?

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Post  furrypaws on Sat Aug 15, 2009 7:21 am

Erm...well, yeah, it's a sequel. Just the fact that it's named "Phantasy Star" is enough to make it a sequel, like how Phantasy Star Online was a sequel to Phantasy Star 4.

I heard something about cartoony graphics being less difficult to pull off, which makes sense. You don't need it all the necessary human parts if it's just labeled as part of the "style". Which is understandable for the DS, but why they do it on the Wii is beyond me.

Something tells me if they tried to recreate PSO on the DS, it would look like, well...fugly. Something like this;
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Here's the source. http://www.unseen64.net/2009/01/08/phantasy-star-zero-ds-beta/

I love some of the concept art so much though that I wish they had brought it to a more powerful system. Some of the beta characters look less...out of proportion, but it must've been hard to work with. Plus, some of the areas look more open. while the game is great for what the DS can do, if they had put that much effort into something on the Wii, or heck, the 360 or PS3, can you imagine what it would've been?

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Post  Aleron Ives on Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:24 pm

Graphics don't make the game, but an annoying graphical style can certainly detract from the enjoyment factor. I'd rather have had it on the PSP, but oh well.

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Post  Flash T.H. on Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:07 pm

I like the anime style. If you're a fan of any anime-style video game series (Disgaea, Lunar, Tales sereis, Cross Edge, etc) or you're maybe 10-25 years of age you would think the art style is nice. I loved the animated opening, by the way. It's one of the few gems. That opening also shows they are SERIOUS about offline mode this time, (hell to PSU, I like this story more) and at the same time they are still encouraging online play with the AI in the game.
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Post  furrypaws on Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:33 pm

Ives is 21 and has problems with the art style.

He could just be a 40 year old woman in disguise, though. It is the internet!

But anyways, I personally am alright with the art style. I liked the more serious looking concept art (and even some of the old models), but this is fine too. Well, except for the FOmarl's walking style. I sort of want to puke every time I use it. Shame, too. She was one of my favorite looking characters. x.x It's not bad, I just prefer a more serious style, like PSO's or PSU's.

PSU's story actually isn't half bad, once you get beyond the not so great presentation and terrible voice acting. Unfortunately, the whole 500-year war backstory is more interesting than anything else they've put out so far. If they were to release a prequel that took place during that, I'm sure it could be awesome. I can't read a lick of Japanese, but from what I can tell, the story sort of seems like a generic, "Oh no! Evil spirit is causing chaos! Let's kill it!" with some really quirky side quests along the way.

The offline mode is actually decent in the same way PSO's offline mode is decent. In fact, it's pretty much the exact same style, except Ninternet instead of a server. The AI partners aren't...wonderful, but at the very least, they have a ridiculous amount of HP. Thing is, Sega crafted them so that throughout the whole game, they'd switch weaponry at stats at various points so they'd always do about 10-12 damage per hit, even when you're doing 70-80. Don't get me wrong, they can be handy, but often times the most they do for you is the occasional Resta and meat shield from the tougher enemies...not to mention steal EXP. >_<

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Post  Flash T.H. on Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:53 pm

Oh yeah, that's the only thing I hate about AI in all the 'PS(blank)' games- AI kill steals. I don't like Kireek in the first PSO quest for that.
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Post  Aleron Ives on Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:11 pm

Play Battle Training in Ultimate, and then he won't KS anymore. Rolling Eyes

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Post  Flash T.H. on Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:12 pm

Yeah I know but I'm weak! Razz
EDIT: But strangely I discovered that techniques will do the same amount of damage in Ultimate as they do in Normal for some wierd reason. I used a hack to check out Ultimate Forest playing Battle Training- I kept using Resta and Rafoie. XD
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Post  Flash T.H. on Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:59 pm

*sigh* PSZ... when art thou have a official release date?
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Post  Aleron Ives on Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:13 pm

It's supposed to come out this winter IIRC, so probably right before Christmas.

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