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Post  Treamcaster on Mon May 12, 2008 1:48 pm

So I know of a guy who's selling a few PSO Dreamcast GD betas.

The most interesting he has for sale is 250$, and features the following:

"One of the V1s does not have the video for the opening scene, but instead a picture of the Pioneer 1 explosion with the story displaying on the screen. Pretty neat. Also, you can directly go in to VH at level 1 and some of the enemies do not attack you, but rather stand still. Unfortunately though, they don't give you any EXP. Oh, and if you get to Falz, you can kill him in 1 hit, but it's tricky to kill him on his last form, because the game freezes up if you don't hurry and hit him. It's right when he's about to do his Grantz attack on you."

The ideia is that if we gather quite all this money I, or another trusted member from the PSO scene, could buy it and rip it in orther to share with everyone.
Be quick, and spread the word, as it may get sold quickly.
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Post  Aleron Ives on Mon May 12, 2008 3:59 pm

Does he have a site of any kind? I'd like to get ahold of all of them. For example, some of the beta videos show characters with different animations, and there's that one where you can actually interact with the environment by pushing those logs in Forest 1.

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Post  Treamcaster on Tue May 13, 2008 1:19 am

Check your PM Smile
Keep me updated with the business Razz
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Post  Treamcaster on Fri May 16, 2008 5:29 am

How's the deal going?
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Post  Aleron Ives on Fri May 16, 2008 2:43 pm

...His post is only pictures of his collections, he doesn't say anything about what the betas actually contain in them... Sad

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Post  Treamcaster on Fri May 16, 2008 4:04 pm

Did you talk him? I second Pm'ed ya with his mail.
Don't give up lol.
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Post  Aleron Ives on Fri May 16, 2008 9:46 pm

I'm not paying hundreds of dollars for it, lol. We need more people to be interested.

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Post  Treamcaster on Sat May 17, 2008 4:04 am

How many you willing to give for it? I guess I could spend 50$... You should talk with Crono and a few other guys into the scene.
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Post  Aleron Ives on Sat May 17, 2008 3:10 pm

I probably wouldn't go higher than 50$ either. We'll need more people. Razz I have the ability to rip it, but who could turn it into a selfboot CDI so everyone could play it? >_>;

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Post  Treamcaster on Sat May 17, 2008 7:02 pm

So we currently "have" 100$. Hmm... maybe we should only release this to those who donate something, even if it's 1$, so most people should not be waiting for us to spend our cash, and get it for free Evil or Very Mad

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Post  Aleron Ives on Sat May 17, 2008 7:12 pm

Since when? Lee tells me that PSO has protection in it. You have to do stuff manually to make it work because it's extra picky about being copied. This might only apply to Ver.2, though. Rolling Eyes

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Post  Treamcaster on Sat May 17, 2008 7:22 pm

Ups, I din't know about that... tought the selfboot thing would work for all DC games.
Altough, we're not sure if this beta have protection, and even if it does who cares about this?
We can always use a boot disk or have a modchip. Razz

(Don't forget to ask your friends about this. I am gonna mail the guy soon, to see if he can lower the price a little)
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Post  Tweeg on Sat May 17, 2008 10:01 pm

Hmm, Putting together the obvious we can say this guy is a registered student or faculty member at Indiana's Purdue University. His other e-mail address is registered through a BB ISP service based in NY, N.Y.. The association with Purdue, size and variety of goods in his collection, and various comments in his posts are a strong indication that he has money to spare and then some.

I'd say there's a good chance of the GD-R's containg the beta/testing versions of the game he claims they do.

However, based on the profile of him i've come up with, I find it highly dubious that he will be willing to part with any item in his collection, least of all a beta disc.

If you guys really feel that gaining possesion of one of those discs will help to improve the overall quality of Schthak's, then by all means put me down for $50 too.

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Post  Treamcaster on Sun May 18, 2008 6:30 am

Hey tweeg! Nice to see you gonna support too!
Oh my, you really are a detective xD

AFK he's not selling all his PSO betas. Just 2 or maybe 3 if I am not mistaken.
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Post  Treamcaster on Sun May 18, 2008 6:32 am

I got a message form him:

"I thought about it, and it would be foolish of me to sell only one of my V1s. Since I have two, if I sold one and it gets distributed everywhere, that significantly decreases the amount of the other one I have, so I'm gonna hold out for now.."

What the...!
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Post  Aleron Ives on Sun May 18, 2008 11:39 am

Well he's rich, expect him to be selfish. It's not about the enjoyment of the game for people like that, they'd rather have a copy sitting unused on a shelf to boost their ego than let everyone enjoy something rare and unique. Apparently he reads our forum, or did you blow it and tell him you were going to copy and distribute it? Mad

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Post  Treamcaster on Sun May 18, 2008 6:43 pm

Oh well, I told him that we would pay for it and then share it.
However he doesn't like the ideia it seems.

Sent him a message, telling that it would be shared only within the few guys who would donate for the beta. Still got no reply...let's wait and see.
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Post  Tweeg on Sun May 18, 2008 8:17 pm

This is a fairly typical concern of people who collect betas and prototypes. Not saying he speciffically collects those types of items, but in this case the betas in question obviously pertain to something he's passionate about collecting. I'm still skeptical that he'd actually be willing to part with what I believe to be the most valuable pieces in his PSO collection.

Mind you, we should be wary from here out, scamming is a real danger. If we're to continue to attempt to purchase these beyond this point then we need to request that he provide proof to back up what he's said about these betas. And, I strongly advise that thought be given on how the actual transaction will be handled should he accept any future offer. Purchase method (Ebay adivisable), payment method (Pay Pal or Personal Check advisable), shipping and packaging.

Ebay would give us some buyer protction, as would Pay Pal. A Personal Check would be traceable. As for packaging, the disc(s) should each be in a standard CD or DVD case with soft foam or bubble wrap in the case to prevent the disc from coming off of the mount, all that should be securely packaged in a box. The package should then be shipped insured for the full payment amount with a tracking number. At the astronomical price were liable to end up paying on a per disc basis (as if $150 wasn't astronomical enough!) this is not to much to ask of the potential seller.

Please also keep in mind that we still do not know the origins of these discs. We also have no clue, at this point at least, as to how much he may have payed to obtain them himself (if anything). Of the most concern to me personally is that I have not seen any picture proof to back up what he has claimed regarding the disc's content.

A possibility, one I'd personally prefer to not believe, is that his claims regarding the betas are fraudulent. In which case, this could split one of two ways:
1. He rejects any offers as a way to protect the lie. This could be disproven though if he would post some in-game pics and or video to back up his claims.
2. He accepts an offer by us, but fails to agree to whatever terms we set forth and to provide proof of what's on the disc(s).

What is interesting to me is that his response is not a definitive no. However, it's far from being a definitive willingness to sell.


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Time to disect his response and add in commentary so that we're all on the same page, so to speak.

"I thought about it..."
He's actually entertaining the idea, a good thing for us.

..."and it would be foolish of me to sell only one of my V1s."
Uh-oh, <klaxons going off>, he's entertained the idea and has in his head upped the anty. This can be taken one of two ways; an absolute sign of greed or he's trying to blow us off.

"Since I have two, ..."
Ladies, gentlemen, and androids, here's the big hint at where he's going with this thought he's now entertaining.

"... if I sold one and it gets distributed everywhere, that significantly decreases the amount of the other one I have..."
Please take note of the keyword "if". While the rest of his sentence does hold a valid point from a collector's view, the presence of this word strongly indicates that this thought he's entertaing has turned into a game for him.

"... so I'm gonna hold out for now.."
By jove Watson! The game is afoot! Seriously, don't hold out hope on this folks. Remeber, this guy has already turned down a blind $150 cash offer for just one of those discs. What he's implying now is that we make an offer for both V1 beta discs. That implies he wants us to offer a minimum of $300 for both discs!


In conclusion of this evaluaton; this response paired with the data collected on the individual last night would imply that acquistion of one or both of these discs is a futile effort. There's a high probability that he's only playing with us just to see how much we might be willing to offer as a way to boost his own ego.

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Post  Aleron Ives on Sun May 18, 2008 9:54 pm

Well it seemed pretty clear that he would not sell it as soon as Treamcaster posted his response. Bottom line, it was foolish to mention that if he were to sell the disc, we would copy and release it for free. Never tell collectors things like that. >_>

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Post  Treamcaster on Mon May 19, 2008 10:24 am

Hope you guys don't be mad at me, I didn't think that someone would "be like this" to answer me like that.
Still no reply, and he logged on yesterday.

Seems his pissing on me. Rolling Eyes
We better waste money when we find the beta where caves monsters appear in forest and such....
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Post  Tweeg on Mon May 19, 2008 9:12 pm

Well, I contacted a contact, lol. My contact said regarding his collection that the Dreamcast lids with the PSO logos are somthing they'd seen before in Japan, but couldn't say one way or another if it was just stickers or an actual commerorative system released by SoJ.

And regarding the betas. Possible, but not likely. Sega kept a rather close guard on their own merchandise. Though, the fact that Propeller Arena was leaked is a rather hopeful sign that a few PSO betas could have "leaked" out of the developement studio.

So, is there any hope to find a beta(s)? You bet there is. The best place to monitor for these babies is not going to be eBay though. Yahoo! Japan: Auctions: Category 40,506 (Sega Dreamcast)
Let the monitoring commence!

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Post  Treamcaster on Wed May 21, 2008 5:35 pm

Yeah, I am with ya Tweeg Razz
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Post  KoNeko on Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:08 pm

If you guys ever find a beta, I'll be glad to put in some money to help buy it. Such a rarity should at least be played by some and not be left sitting on a shelf.

(I'd really be interested in seeing the different lobby, since I think that is in the beta where the cave monsters are in forest, etc)
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Post  Aleron Ives on Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:22 pm

I don't remember ever seeing a different lobby style. Do you have screens?

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Post  KoNeko on Sat Jan 31, 2009 6:02 pm

Sorry, I typed the wrong thing. I meant that I'd like to see the different styled Pioneer 2. I know that it looked different (or at least slightly different) in the betas.
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